Unidentified Black Males (5.09)

“The truth will out”: we learn the real reason
why Tony was a no-show the day Blundetto got arrested;

and we get a major revelation about Vito Spatafore.

Episode 61 – Originally aired May 2, 2004
Written by Terence Winter and Matthew Weiner
Directed by Tim Van Patten


This is the first episode that Terence Winter and Matthew Weiner get credit for working on together, and the hour benefits from their considerable talents.  “U.B.M.” has three plotlines, which is not in itself uncommon, but what is rare is that all three are stories are quite important, none can be considered the minor plotline.  The story of Tony and Carmela’s relationship runs parallel—and sometimes perpendicular—to the story of Meadow and Finn’s relationship, while the issues surrounding Tony Blundetto get more and more complicated as the hour progresses.

Blundetto was spotted a couple of blocks away from where Joseph Peparelli (aka Joey Peeps) was killed.  He denies having anything to do with the murder, but Tony Soprano understands that Blundetto is just giving him “plausible deniability.”  Johnny Sac is infuriated by the murder of Peeps (and the ridiculous mistake on his headstone must only add to John’s outrage).  It’s sort of hard to believe that Johnny Sac could be so infuriated, especially considering that Peeps wasn’t a made man and also because viewers had never previously been made aware that a strong relationship between Sac and Peeps existed.  But we have seen John Sacrimoni become irrationally angry before—Ralph Cifaretto pushed John’s berserk-button with his Ginny-joke last season.

Angelo Garepe has some regrets about hitting Joey Peeps, and says so to his colleagues.  Some viewers thought that this scene—where Lil Carmine and his guys debate how to deal with Johnny Sac—was a jab against George Bush and his administration’s decision to invade Iraq.  There are quite a few elements that add plausibility to this observation:

  1. Lil Carmine is wearing jeans and big ol’ belt buckle, looking a bit like the cowboy that George W. often pretended to be
  2. Lil Carmine’s dismissive comment about the United Nations mirrors the Bush administration’s gung-ho, unilateral attitude regarding the Iraq invasion
  3. Blood-thirsty Rusty mentions his quadruple bypass, connecting him to hawk Dick Cheney (who had suffered 4 heart attacks by the time this episode aired)
  4. Lil Carmine refers to the troubles that his father also had with Johnny Sac, which may remind us that both father Bush and son Bush had major conflicts with Saddam Hussein
  5. Lil Carmine’s final comment bypasses the rules of grammar and logic to finally land in a place of complete absurdity, much like the idiotspeak we enjoyed for 8 years from you-know-who 

As is the case for so many scenes on The Sopranos, it is easy to become convinced that a particular interpretation is the “correct” one.  In truth, there isn’t enough evidence to say with certainty that Chase was mocking the Bush administration with this scene.  Nevertheless, I can easily imagine Lil Carmine uttering some of George W’s unforgettable gems, like “Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream” or “They misunderestimated me.”  And conversely, I can imagine George W mouthing some of Lil Carmine’s greatest hits, like “You’re at the precipice of an enormous crossroad.”

(I’m not gratuitously picking on the former President here.  Like many Americans now stuck in the lunacy and perpetual mendacities of the Trump administration, I look back at the Bush years with a kind of nostalgia.  I’ll admit I even feel a certain warmth toward lighthearted, easy-going George W.  The criticisms of the Bush administration that we find in Seasons 5 and 6 of The Sopranos were part of Chase’s increasing effort to provide eyewitness testimony of those years.)

Carmela has warm feelings toward Tony at the beginning of this hour.  She tenderly describes to Gabriella Dante how sweet Tony was after Hugh’s birthday party.  But her feelings turn sour when Tony doesn’t come in to the house when dropping AJ off.  Tony is taking it for granted that his relationship with Carmela is on the mend.  He tells Melfi that he didn’t stick around that morning after making love to Carmela, and when the doctor tries to question him on the wisdom of this decision, he interrupts her to take a telephone call.

Carmela is eager to proceed with the divorce but she can’t find an attorney that hasn’t been polluted by Tony.  (Tony probably took the advice that Alan Sapinsly gave him last year: meet with all the good local divorce lawyers before Carmela does.)  Without a good attorney, Carmela cannot secure a comfortable future for herself—and Tony knows it.  He growls at Carmela, “You’re entitled to shit.

Meadow and Finn’s relationship is also in a bad spot.  Their dissatisfactions with each other and their uncertainty about the future and their steaming hot apartment all contribute to an almost formulaic depiction of the old trope, “the struggling young lovers.”  Finn thinks about scrapping dental school to become a professional photographer—someone once complimented his photos for being “solidly unsentimental.”  For the time being though, he can work at the construction job that Tony gets for him.

Finn functions as a viewer-surrogate perhaps like no other character on the series ever has.  He is a true outsider to the world of the mob, a Navy-brat born in Japan and raised in the Azores.  As outsiders ourselves, we might feel an affinity with the young man.  Additionally, there is a generic quality to Finn DeTrolio, particularly in comparison to Mead’s previous boyfriends Jackie and Noah, that makes it easier for viewers of all stripes to identify with him.  He is compared to both Shaggy and Joe Perry in this hour, and—strangely—both comparisons work:

The many faces of Finn

(I chuckled when Vito compared Finn to Joe Perry, but I laughed for a solid 10 minutes when Paulie called him “Shaggy.”)  Finn has such a generic quality that he can accurately be compared to both a slacker with a Scooby-snack addiction and a genuine rock-n-roll badass. 

Finn shows up at the construction site early one morning and inadvertently interrupts a romantic rendezvous:

Vito blowjob - Sopranos Autopsy

Zoinks!  I still get surprised by this moment, even after having seen the episode a half-dozen times.  The Sopranos doesn’t do too many surprise twists (especially compared to a show like Breaking Bad, which seemed to toss out a twist before every commercial break), and so when Chase does give us one, it truly feels shocking.

We wonder what we would do in Finn’s situation.  (I’m pretty sure I’d be on the first flight back to Mission Viejo or wherever the hell he’s from.)  Finn is not sure if Vito wants to fuck him, or kill him, or fuck him and then kill him.  The giant baseball bat in front of Yankee Stadium, underneath which Vito waits for Finn, symbolizes all of these possible fates—a bat can be a phallic symbol but it also makes for a good murder weapon:

Giant yankees bat

The bat is a visual pun, and it is just one of several phallic references that stock this hour: Finn says he might want to go home until this thing with Vito “blows over”; the character of Felicia has a name that sounds a lot like “fellatio”; Finn and Meadow argue about a student of “oral” surgery; and Tony tells Finn outside a restaurant, “I didn’t mean to bite your head off.”  (Oral sex has a recurring prominence in the series, and we know from previous episodes “Boca” and “Irregular Around the Margins” that Chase gets a kick out of fellatio-related puns and jokes.)

We might also wonder how to proceed with Meadow if we were in Finn’s shoes.  Despite her intelligence and education, she is living in a tangle of self-delusions.  She criticizes Finn for talking about “the guys” as though they were an anthropology subject—and then she proceeds to rationalize the mob precisely as though it were an anthropology subject.  She belittles Finn’s belief that Vito is out to get him, either sexually or homicidally.  I think that of all of Meadow’s self-deceptions here, there are two that we should particularly consider because of the irony that it generates:

  1. Her insistence that Jackie Jr. was shot by African-Americans
  2. Her argument that “Vito Spatafore is a married man, Finn.  I seriously doubt he wants to kill you.”

These two misbeliefs combine to ironically undercut Meadow’s criticism that Finn is overreacting because it was Vito Spatafore, in fact, who put the additional hole in Jackie Jr’s head.  Finn pulls out a suitcase and considers fleeing the situation, leaving his beautiful but annoying girlfriend behind.  When Finn explains that pulling out the suitcase was part of his “process” and that there was “no abundant intentionality in it,” we see that Chase has tweaked the age-old formula: Finn and Meadow are “struggling young lovers—with Ivy League vocabularies.”

Self-deception runs rampant in SopranoWorld, Meadow is not the only one that suffers from it.  Tony has buried deep within his psyche the truth about what happened the night Blundetto was arrested almost two decades ago.  It takes Melfi’s professional expertise to draw the truth back to the surface.  In a quietly intense scene, Tony explains why he has such feeling of guilt towards his cousin (and why his panic attacks come back when Blundetto is around).  Tony has been lying to everyone for the last 17 years about why he was not there the night of the hijack; it was because of a panic attack sparked by Livia, not because he was jumped by some black men.  (He has been saying he was jumped for his sneakers.  Air Jordans came out in 1985, and I guess it was around that time that we started hearing reports of sneaker-related crime, which makes Tony’s excuse more credible.)  The sequence of events that began on that fateful day would lead “Tony Uncle Johnny” to eventually become the wealthy and powerful head of the DiMeo/Soprano crime family, while “Tony Uncle Al” would spend 17 years in a federal pen learning how to make grill cheese sandwiches on the radiator.  (In one of the most absurd ironies of the series, Blundetto is arrested and sent up the river for hijacking—of all things—Betamaxes.  He served 17 long years in prison, but Betamax was almost completely supplanted by VHS in the consumer market by 1988—just two frickin’ years after his arrest.)  Dr. Melfi is excited by Tony’s breakthrough—she compares it to giving birth.  But Tony thinks that taking a shit is the more apt analogy.

Carmela is living with a generous heaping of self-deception as well.  She thinks that she can get away from Tony clean and simple, that the law will aid her as she seeks a divorce—as though she didn’t spend the last two decades enabling her criminal husband and colluding with their criminal colleagues.  Carmela is unable to look Tony in the face as he calls her out on her hypocrisy:

You knew every step of the way exactly how it works.  But you walk around that fuckin’ mansion in your $500 shoes and your diamond rings and you act like butter wouldn’t melt in your mouth.

In the final scene of the hour, we see Carmela “walk around that fuckin’ mansion” wearing 3 glittering necklaces, an expensive watch, a couple of sparkling bracelets.  As she takes off her costly earrings, Carmela receives a phone call from Meadow.  She and Finn are getting married.  As Carmela watches Tony lounge in the pool, she is overcome with mixed emotions: joy as she thinks of Meadow’s bright future ahead, and sorrow as she recognizes the shadows on her own horizon.

In a way, Felicia (she of the thong and tramp-stamp) has the key lines of this episode.  She told Finn that living together with someone is not the same as being married…

…because you could just pack up and leave whenever the shit hits the fan.  Talk to married people.  That ring, believe it or not, has got this kind of, like, weird power.

Finn momentarily considered packing up and leaving, but—after literally “hitting the fan” (of his dying air conditioner)—he ultimately decides to put a ring on Meadow’s finger.  Carmela tries to leave Tony but her wedding ring (not to mention all her other rings) have a weird power over her.  As she looks out the window at Tony laying in the swimming pool, she recognizes her husband to be a sort of “lord of the Ring”—he has used his reputation and influence to make it very difficult for her to escape the commitment embodied by her wedding ring.

UBM pool

We might remember that all the way back in the Pilot episode, Carmela looked through a window to watch Tony cavort in the pool, just as she does here.  This imagery has been repeated many times throughout the series.  The swimming pool itself has become associated with notions of home and domesticity and family over the years.  A sampling of pool imagery:

In the first episode, Tony associates the ducks that have roosted in his pool with his family:

pool Ep1

The slithering pool vacuum underscores that the (relative) tranquility of the Soprano household is threatened by the arrival of lying,
chaotic, reptilian Janice early in Season 2:

reptilian pool

In “Whitecaps,” Tony lounges in the pool after Carmela has kicked him out of the house, signifying that he will not easily relinquish his home or marriage:

calm waters

The Season 5 opening includes a shot of the covered pool, signaling Tony’s absence from the domestic space:


The image of Tony barreling into the pool just moments after Carm has made a date with Wegler serves to reinforce his “ownership” of both her and the house:


It is in the pool that Tony makes a big step in reestablishing his dominant position in Carmela’s life and in the household after Hugh’s birthday party:

pool scene MARCO POLO

Carmela’s eyes tear up now as she hears the news of Meadow’s engagement.  They are complicated tears, heavy with the complexities and contradictions of her life as a Mob wife and mother.

Some viewers may also find their own eyes tearing up.  The Sopranos is “solidly unsentimental” (just as Finn’s photographs are purported to be), but the closing moments of this hour have an almost mawkish tenderness to them.  I’m usually turned-off by gushy endings but I think this episode, by being tight enough and crisp enough in its first 55 minutes, earns its mushy finish.  Much of the sentimentality comes from Bobby Darin singing “If I Were A Carpenter” over the ending.  Christopher mocked the song’s hokeyness as he sang it at a construction site in Season 4’s “No-Show,” but I think there is something quite earnest about this particular version of the song.  (Matthew Greenwald at Allmusic.com wrote about this version that “Lyrically, the vulnerable, heart-rending stance that conveys his love fits Darin’s voice perfectly, making this one of the most honest records of its era.”)  There is no shortage of brilliant song choices in The Sopranos, and we all have our favorites.  The use of Linkin Park’s “Session” two episodes back ranks way up there for me.  But since “If I Were A Carpenter” is able to add to the real emotion of the final scene while cleverly evoking Finn’s new blue-collar job at the construction site and simultaneously acting as an ironic criticism of the inauthenticity of Tony and Carmela’s marriage, it would probably get my vote for Most Perfect Song Selection of the entire series.


As all of us have figured out by now, the four sets of unidentified black males that “appear” in this episode are:

  1. The (fictional) black guys that Blundetto blames his limp on
  2. The (fictional) black guys who get blamed for busting Little Paulie’s head
  3. The (fictional) black guys that Meadow blames for Jackie Jr’s death
  4. The (fictional) black guys who kept Tony from appearing at the truck hijacking so many years ago

Characters in SopranoWorld exploit certain stereotypes about African-Americans for reasons of expediency or self-deception.  Tony works himself into a lather as he describes, in the most horribly derogatory way, the men that jumped him 17 years ago—but the men never even existed.  Stereotypes and prejudices against black people are so strong in SopranoLand that crimes and culpability can be successfully shifted even on to imaginary African-Americans.



  • Rewatching the series, I’m surprised how little screentime Adriana actually gets in Season 5.  The way I remembered it, the FBI put the screws to Ade in practically every episode—but in actuality, several episodes go by without even touching that storyline, or just skimming lightly over it.  I guess it doesn’t actually take much to keep the storyline alive and relevant.  For example, in a very quick scene here, Adriana talks to Agent Robin over the phone while the painting behind her underscores that the FBI has its eyes on her.  (Or it underscores how wide-eyed I got at the sight of that tiny miniskirt.)

Adriana eye

  • I think most people would not agree with my choice for Most Perfect Song Selection, as there are plenty of other viable candidates to choose from.  An argument can be made that “Don’t Stop Believin'” is the greatest song selection of the series, if not the history of television.  But Chase’s decision to use that Journey song in the final scene was so cerebral, so brilliantly calculated—and so discussed, analyzed and parodied in the ensuing years—that the song, for me, became deprived of much of the ineffable, inexplicable magic that Music is so able to conjure.  Time, however, has a way of making a person nostalgic, and I’ve once again grown very fond of the song and of the way that David Chase used it on that Sunday night in the summer of 2007. 


Lil Carmine W. Bush

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56 responses to “Unidentified Black Males (5.09)

  1. Dude Manbrough

    Three of the absolute funniest Sopranos moments ever: the reveal of the “Peeps” headstone, Little Carmine’s language-mangling and Finn’s “maybe he wants to f*ck me, then kill me”. The Sopranos has always been by far the funniest “major” TV drama and this one was especially so (Meadow serving hot chili in 100 degree weather…Finn checking out his “work friend’s” thong, “Shaggy”, Little Paulie’s shorts, Bat Day).
    When Angelo is first introduced he seems to barely remember Tony B, but that evolved into something more. A curious and rare incongruity. Spoiler alert…………Tony’s attempts to soothe the friction between John and Carmine (“power-sharing arrangement”) ends up with Angelo dead, which triggers Tony B and starts an long war with Phil. Meanwhile Tony attempts to placate his cousin end up setting Chris off and you know how that ends up. All because Tony B. got his foot run over.

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  2. Dude Manbrough

    Carmela and Meadow’s stories also kind of intersect a little here. Carmela is starting to realize that her “dream” of a “regular” 50/50 typical divorce simply isn’t going to happen, as in spite of her (constant) state of cognitive dissonance she’s anything but “normal”. Meanwhile Meadow doesn’t know how close she is to “getting out” by getting engaged to Finn, a move that could have radically altered her entire future had she followed through with it.

    Poor Finn. His sincere attempts to “fit in” and make the best of his girlfriend’s family’s lifestyle are just so hapless. He just isn’t prepared in any way to handle the “etiquette” of the life and the crudity and violence of it all leaves him terrified and shell-shocked. And Meadow is totally oblivious, trying to convince him HE’S in the wrong and being too judgmental. An underrated character IMO.

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  3. Great write up! I’d add more, but I need to finish recovering from the shock of seeing a new entry so soon first! 😉

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  4. I actually believe Carmela was crying out of sadness at her own failed marriage contrasted with Meadows engagement as she watched Tony in the pool. Can’t believe this is your last post! It seems like Test Dream in two episodes will take all of your powers to translate for us! Looking forward to new posts, this has been great to re-watch the series with this site.

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  5. Welcome back, Ron! Great to see you continue your analysis.

    This is the first episode in which Vito’s homosexuality is revealed, and with regards to the “connectedness” of the Sopranos it’s interesting to me that one of the first shots of Vito after the reveal–standing outside the stadium near the huge, phallic baseball bat–seems to foreshadow Vito’s death by baseball bat later in the season. I remember reading somewhere that Chase decided to extend the number of episodes for the final season once the actor portraying Vito approached him about a gay mobster storyline (I imagine to increase the actor’s own on-air time). I suspect the Vito character was not thought of by Chase as gay before this storyline was created, and his orientation retrofitted, but that doesn’t bother me, since I enjoy the Vito story as much as I do.

    One of the things Winter and Weiner absolutely get right in this episode, and it’s a joy to watch it unfold, is the circular type of argument young lovers can get into that last late into the night, going back again and again over the same offenses, to the significance of Finn pulling out his suitcase, whether they should live on the East Coast or the West Coast, etc. etc. I think most of us have that despairing, alternately angry, consoling back and forth at least once in our lives. It’s depicted really well here, and “reads real”.

    I do agree with Dana that Carmella’s tears at the end seem to be her joy at her impression of the simple innocence of Meadow and Finn’s love, mixed with her sorrow comparing that joy to the complex failure of her relationship with Tony. In that regard, “If I Were a Carpenter” seems to underscore the idea of how young love can be: The male in a simple trade, carpenter or dentist, the female his lady. I respect your awarding that song the honor of “Best in the Series”, but my own preferences, synchronizing song and images, would certainly include “I’m Not Like Everyone Else”, “Running Wild”, “Seven Souls”, and especially, “Urine Town”.

    So tomorrow, I’ll watch the next episode in the series, but this time without a Ron analysis to savor afterwards. I’ll be back on the next rewatch, but I do hope (like all your many fans) that you do continue your great work here. Please don’t let this site end with a sudden cut to black, where we wonder if we’ve lost our cable connection

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  6. I have come to the Conclusion that I’ll be watching this show over and over forever. There is always some little thing you over look. Your fantastic write ups always find something I missed or have an interesting angle. Kudos! That George Bush analogy went right by me and I have watched the series 3 times at least. I went back and watched this episode again and I noticed our Friend the Black bear (Unidentified male?) makes a brief appearance when Carmella is on the phone getting the bad news about her Lawyers and potential Lawyers. There is a brief cut to the Bear on the Patio once again. Another reference to Tony as a Predator to Carmella and the family. Or the Bear could be symbolic of their marriage. Watching the scenes with Carm and the lawyers put me in mine of the season 3 episode “Second Opinion” when Dr Krakower lays down the law and tells her to leave Tony. She could actually leave with the House and a settlement based on Tony’s Tax return but she wants it all (Her share of the Blood Money) Carm is the proverbial Monkey with his hand caught in the Jar. To me this episode one of the big turning points in the series because from this point on the marriage is truly dead. Its no longer personal between her and Tony its all business.

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  7. asda222s@asdasd.pl

    great blog, would be better if you didn’t force your political bias.


  8. George Jr. as Carmine Jr. linked by their shared
    predilection for idiot-speak. Ron, that’s priceless! I’m still laughing!
    And now like Davey Scatino, we’ve doubled down as a
    nation, and come back for a bigger helping. It’s amazing.

    I wonder about Melfi. She seems blind and self deluded also, missing
    when Tony’s drops his mask during his session. The contempt!
    Melfi midwives his ‘discovery’ about the guilt he feels towards Blundetto, and likens it to
    childbirth. She thinks she’s helped him bring something good into
    the world. Tony dismisses it as taking a shit. Then he pounds it again:
    “Trust me, it’s exactly like taking a shit”. Brutal.

    By viewing self knowledge, and guilt as shit he needs to expel
    so he can continue his behavior, he casts Melfi in the role of
    a tool to keep him regular – or worse a receptacle.

    It’s no wonder she references his impacted lower bowel
    when she expels Tony much later.

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  9. “Sometimes you tell a lie so long, you don’t know when to stop.”

    That’s a quote from a later episode, but it’s true here. Tony
    actually believed his own lie about his made up African Americans.
    But he told it because he knew be believed. Just like all the other similar
    lies and liars in this episode – they exist in an environment where they
    will be believed, and the lie protects or promotes the liar. And so it goes.

    I love this series.

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    • And I really love the comments you’ve been leaving, very thoughtful and clever. Clever pseudonym too. I only figured it out because my friend Jason once pointed out to me that his name fits neatly into the sequence…


  10. Andy the English guy

    Lil Carmine’s comment is worth repeating..
    ..Until I am it’ll be hard to verify that I think I’ll be more effective

    Just poeticalist

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  11. I love these analysis’ but they make me feel like I am not getting the most out of this show. I get a few of the references, but not as they apply to life in America politically. I just enjoy the show, and think about the motivations of each character. When you watch this show, do you think of these things immediately, or do they come to you on a re-watch? What is the process?

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    • 80% of Sopranos Autopsy comes out of the extensive notes I make during re-watches. The rest is stuff that I’ve learned or thought of while reading about the series or just reflecting on my own experiences. Since you mention political references: the idea that “Lil Carmine = George Bush” in that scene here is not one of my original observations, I think I first came across it on the Chase Lounge, and then in other places. But the breakdown of the scene is (mostly) my own.

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  12. It doesn’t make sense to me that Vito would pick his head up so that someone could see him giving a blow-job. It was a surprise yes, but still it didn’t make sense to me. It also doesn’t make sense that the air conditioner wouldn’t be replaced by either set of parents. New York summer’s are brutal. Who would let the kids suffer like that? And it was obvious to me that Finn was so terrified of Vito, that he asked Meadow to marry him out of self preservation. Meadow is deluding herself in this whole episode as well. Why would he lie about something like that? Why would she make that whole speech about Italians to Finn when she is well aware of the life she is in? She even defended Eugene when he gave little Paulie a beating “He’s so sweet!”. …she just can’t bring herself at this point to see it for what it is. Like Carmela hiding behind Catholicism to justify staying with Tony. Then she signs Vito’s death warrant by telling Carmela about Finn seeing what he saw the next season…..putting poor Finn in that position when he knew what was going to happen.

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    • You seem to be answering your own questions when you talk about Meadow being deluded. In real life, people don’t always act predictably and most certainly everyone lies to themselves out of convenience. A massive theme of the episode.

      In principle I agree about Vito – never mind why does he look up – why even do something so dangerous in the very place where you could get caught? But then, people doing inappropriate (sexual) things in the worst places can be kinky to some people. There’s always exceptions, and a whole lot of hypocrisy in life.

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      • You’re right about Vito, but it was early and no workers were expected. He’s also taking a chance with that ridiculous outfit in the bar when he must know someone might see him. It’s true, everybody is deluded.

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  13. straight outta iowa

    A great episode. One of my favorite aspects of the show, alluded to above by Ron, is the frequent juxtapositioning — or should I say “intersectionality”? — of the absurdity of SporanoWorld with the absurdity of the modern academy, at all levels. Meadow’s academic goobledygook in particular is just priceless, especially when deployed to confound Montclair State dropout Carm. What both the Sopranos and the edugangsters share, along with every other institution the series pillories, is corruption: Whether Wendi Kobler and her Barcelona consulting gig, Columbia shaking down Carm, or even her fling with Mr. Wegler for the benefit of AJ’s grades, as Michael said in GF2: We’re [all] part of the same corruption.

    Ron — I also appreciated you Ade comments. Though as you know I’m more a Gloria guy, I have to agree with you.

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    • Well, I don’t see the modern academy as a bogeyman to the same degree that I’m guessing you do, SOI. (And I’d be very surprised if David Chase would fully agree with Tony’s earlier description of the Columbia administration as “Morningside Heights gangsters.”) But I see your point and it’s a good one…

      I think we can both agree that the most important thing is to always get back to Ade (and Gloria).

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      • I have to say, I really dislike the Meadow character and, as a Columbia University grad, find it preposterous that she would even get in. She is spoiled, obnoxious, and both enabled and another enabler.

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        • I love meeting people who went to Columbia so that I clarify whether it was the Columbia School of Broadcasting. One line and a lifetime of laughs.

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  14. straight outta iowa


    Fair enough. Setting politics aside, I just think Chase is pretty cynical about everything — especially the institutions we used to hold in high regard.

    Your site has inspired me to re-watch the series. Keep up the good work!

    Full disclosure: My wife a CU alumna.

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  15. Carmela’s lawyer: “As my partners reminded me, I do have a full case schedule”

    I can hear Mrs. Alan Sapinsly: “YOU DON’T HAVE PARTNERS!”

    Carmela to Meadow earlier in the episode: “You have options, I have lawyers.”

    The squeaking of the air conditioner seems to mock Meadow’s high pitched voice. Finn kicks the air conditioner.

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  16. Is it me, or does Jim Gandolfini have the worst golf swing on the East Coast?

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  17. Why would Finn ever decide to get engaged to Meadow (i.e., deeper into the SopranoWorld) if he felt so threatened by Vitto and the guys? That made no sense to me. And he’s supposed to represent “us”?

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    • Young love…


    • “Why would Finn ever decide to get engaged to Meadow (i.e., deeper into the SopranoWorld) if he felt so threatened by Vitto and the guys”

      I always thought that his decision was either 1) him waving the white flag and his brain not functioning correctly due to sleep depravation (basically just saying the only thing he thought would make the torture end) or 2) he might’ve been thinking that him marrying the Princess Soprano would make him untouchable/protected from Vito fucking him or killing (or both as he says)

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  18. “you’re going to believe a drunken Irish prick over me? ….Here have a drink..”

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  19. Regarding Vito’s sexual orientation being a surprise, I always thought the way Vito knelt in front of Gigi Cistone and took his hand before taking his pulse was… strange. Kneeling was unnecessary and the position he took in front of Gigi made taking the carotid pulse from his neck more awkward. So why this particular position? Perhaps a foreshadowing? I know I started looking at Vito with a different perspective from that point on.

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  20. Throw-down! Most Perfect Song Selection has to “State Trooper,” no? A wet New Jersey night, on the run & hoping to keep ahead of the law a little longer. With “a clear conscience about the things that I’ve done.”
    That ending song draws out the quiet fear that stalks all those characters.

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  21. This is one of my favorite episodes, in big part because of Finn’s storyline and how he is systematically hedged in, all made worse by the fact that Meadow is in complete denial. He really is in a spectacularly terrible spot. I’ve thought more about what I would do in his situation. The most obvious solution is to simply leave and go back across the country and never come back….but even then I would be nervous for quite a long time, always looking over my shoulder. If Meadow grasped the seriousness of the situation, she would be a huge asset, but her denial puts him in an even more precarious spot. As the boss’s daughter’s boyfriend he has some level of protection (as highlighted by Pauly earlier in the episode), but if they break up then Finn is completely exposed. For this reason, I always took his desperate suggestion that they get married as a sort of self-preservation – maybe staying with Meadow, and being engaged gives him a little more protection from Vito.
    Like Finn, other characters are being hedged in throughout the episode as well, like Carmela as she comes to realize how all of her legal options have been preemptively squashed by Tony. By the end, she may be coming to realize that the best option left is to get back together with him.
    Then there’s Tony S, who is hedged in by the actions of Tony B. Tony S finds himself having to make up a fake alibi on the spot to Johnny Sac, and thus firmly plant himself right in the middle of the entire mess.

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    • It’s certainly very possible that some thought of self-preservation motivated Finn here. But I’ve always felt that Meadow, despite all her issues and contradictions, is quite a catch…

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      • She is a catch, but her fathers influence is like a poison over her life and I am positive that Finn was seeing her differently starting with that construction job. He gets a excellent view of the life she comes from. Lucky for him his snitching on Vito saved his life and he was able to get away from her. Sad but true.


    • Probably the gay storyline wasn’t thought of yet.


  22. You mention “idiot speak”. Did you ever think in your wildest dreams that somebody else in the White House is a genuine idiot and uses idiot speak daily ad nauseam?? 😉

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  23. Carmela is especially irritating in this episode. Trying to get more money by having a forensic lawyer look into the finances. Doesn’t she realize the repercussions of such a move? All because Tony didn’t come in the house when he dropped off AJ. She’s just as bad if not worse than Tony. He’s a sociopath yes, but as a mob wife she puts the whole family at risk and probably wouldn’t get anything if the FBI gets wind of it.
    Meadow lectures her about people having things handed to them and brings up Finn and the construction site job that her father got him..Already we see the hypocrisy and the way Meadow fools herself. This episode makes me anxious!! 😂😂

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  24. “Vito Spatafore is a married man, Finn. I seriously doubt he wants to kill you.”

    It’s also funny that Meadow mixes up her logic here. Being married and committing murder aren’t mutually exclusive. Of course, in SopranoWorld, neither is being married and having sex with someone else. It’s just a funny leap in reasoning she makes.

    And someone mentioned it above but it bears repeating: “It’s really good chili.” One of the funniest lines in the series.

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    • I guess what Meadow is really trying to tell Finn is that a married man would not be interested in boning him (which is a pretty naïve thing for her to believe)… But the way the dialogue is written, it also shows, as you say, how illogical she can be.


  25. Who was Josette, played by Hilary Flynn?


  26. This episode’s Tony and Melfi session has to be one of the finest acting performances by James Gandolfini in the entire series.

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  27. This is the episode where Vito’s sexuality is revealed. Eugene Pontecorvo jokes, “That skank I saw you with, this girl’s fuckin’ mustache – it must’ve been like kissin’ a fireman.” As Vito’s storyline develops, he ends up dating a volunteer fireman with a mustache.

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  28. again…the sloppy dialogue. “my parents offered me a jet blue ticket…”


    This episode is like Mad Men’s “The Gypsy & the Hobo” in that one side of it I am so into, and the other, well…

    Tony’s therapy sesh in this episode is incredible. How Melfi talks him through the panic attack, the nakedness of Tony right before. “What am I gonna tell them?” When he accentuates it with “all of them,” there that weight he speaks of in the season finale. Everyone answers to him, but they also look to him. Left at the top, alone with it all.
    Male gaze: Tony tells Melfi “Trust me” when he says therapy is like taking a shit, a universal experience, while her example, childbirth, is something for which Tony would have to take her word.

    Anyway, then there’s the Finn/Meadow drama. Finn gets a bad rap for being generally a milquetoast average Madigan lad, but I feel for him when he sees the casual violence these “friends” inflict on one another. Also “Maybe he wants to fuck me, then kill me,” is funny. It just is. Well done, Joe Perry. But the argument between the sappy couple is one of the least interesting regular things this regular show has rendered. Not too banal, but a little uncomfortable in its familiarity, a reminder of how silly these arguments can be when we are young. Finn’s not wrong to be freaked out, but Meadow has already become that blinkered, and focuses on that god damned suitcase.

    Anyway, besides all that, there’s great scenes. The Peeps funeral, and the tense limo convo. But shouty Sac is best sac, so who’s surprised (“The fuckin’ GALL on that man! His fatha must be SPINNIN'”)? Tony v Tony, therapy, and the job site, especially early on w/ Paulie, stuffing cash in Finn’s pants. What a suckup.

    Tony is good at pretending to be Tony, much like Livia is good at pretending to be Livia. The titular males don’t even exist, he made them up, but he spews out some racist shit about them that is so very in character for him. Reminds me of Livia’s “Your ear, it’s disfigured!” in Isabella.

    Despite his jail time, and how much has passed him up because of it, I can see Tony B being way more at ease in charge than Nucky Thompson. Then again, Tony’s got (slightly) fewer headaches in S1 as well, when he isn’t the Boss. Love how casually embarrassed Tony B is that his mom bragged about his IQ.

    Still need to comment on “The 2nd Cumsies,” but I just listened to your recent Podabing appearance, Ron, so here we are.

    P. S.: If Ray Abruzzo in the Sopranos is Dubya, Abruzzo’s brief appearance in Mad Men is Jeb.

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    • Great comments KZ. We recorded that Podabing episode a few weeks before George Floyd was killed. If we had recorded it after, I’m sure we would have gotten more into the systemic racism that exists within SopranoWorld, and how these mobsters benefit from the ugly stereotype of the “unidentified black male.” Ah well, a bit of a missed opportunity…


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