Proshai, Livushka (3.02)

Tony and Noah talk about movies, among other things.
Janice organizes a memorial service for her mother
at which guests try to think of something nice to say.

Episode 28 – Originally Aired March 4, 2001
Written by David Chase
Directed by Tin Van Patten


This episode, along with “Mr. Ruggerio’s Neighborhood,” was part of a two-hour doubleheader that opened Season 3.  It was the only time during the original run of the series that two episodes premiered on the same day.  As I mentioned in my previous write-up, I think this may have been part of an effort to both deflect and deal with the issue of Nancy Marchand’s death.

According to Prof. David Lavery, Chase had originally wanted to kill off Livia at the end of Season 1, but Marchand was so good in the role that he changed his mind.  The loss of Marchand must have been quite a blow to the cast and crew, but the quality of the series certainly didn’t diminish after losing the high-caliber actress.  Season 3 takes The Sopranos to new heights, giving us memorable episodes such as “Employee of the Month,” “University,” and of course, “Pine Barrens.”

“Proshai, Livushka” is memorable for a number of reasons, one of which is its very uncharacteristic opening sequence.  The camera pans across the kitchen to reveal Tony face-down on the kitchen floor.  Has he been killed?  Did Patsy Parisi return and shoot Tony through the kitchen window as he almost did in the previous episode?


No, Tony has not been shot.  (That is tomato juice on the floor, not blood.)  The reason why Tony is passed out on the floor is revealed to us in a very irregular way: the narrative “rewinds” to an earlier point (when Tony meets Meadow’s black friend Noah) and plays out once again for our benefit.  Verisimilitude is a hallmark of The Sopranos, and therefore this self-conscious, postmodern gambit feels like a gross violation of the show’s usual realism.  But the violation works here.  It helps establish the series’ status as a postmodern work.  The classic mob movies that Tony and Noah discuss are arguably part of the first wave of American gangster movies.  Later works such as The Godfather trilogy, which built upon the original classics, are part of the second wave.  The third wave is more recent, and include some of Scorsese and Tarantino’s films along with The Sopranos.  A characteristic of these most recent works is that they build upon the earlier works, but also deconstruct and depart from previously established conventions.  William Wellman’s 1931 film The Public Enemy, which Tony watches throughout the course of this episode, represents a foundation which Chase plays on and plays against.

The “rewinding” ploy would never have been used in a first or second wave gangster film.  It could only be used now, in a contemporary work like The Sopranos.  And this underscores a predicament that conservative Tony must deal with: the passage of time.  As much as he wishes that “in this house, it’s 1954” (as he proclaimed in episode 1.11), Meadow’s friendship with Jewish-African-American Noah Tannenbaum proves that the 1950s are long over.  Noah’s racial makeup is a non-issue for most viewers in 2001, but it is Noah’s defining characteristic for unenlightened Tony.  Noah’s multiple ethnicity multiplies Tony’s hostility.  The epithets that Tony hurls at the young man—creative in their own right but ugly nevertheless—confirm a well-practiced racism.  But we can chuckle a little bit at Tony’s bigotry because we suspect that it may not be as deep-seated or hostile as he would like Noah to believe.  We might recognize Tony as something of a modern-day Archie Bunker:

Archie Bunker - Sopranos Autopsy

Meadow is understandably upset that Tony is trying to drive Noah away from her, particularly in light of what she sees at her grandmother’s funeral:

meadow 3 men

Tony has business partners that are black (Rev. James) and Jewish (Assemblyman Zellman).  Tony’s hypocritical attitude toward Black Jewish Noah is more than she can swallow.  While Tony’s racism cannot be condoned, we do understand that he is acting in what he believes is his daughter’s best interest.  (The primary tension in the final stage of Season 3 will come out of Tony again trying to protect his daughter—not from Noah but from Jackie Jr.) 

Tony tries to be a good father to his children.  Being a good son, however, is hardly worth the effort with a mother like Livia.  In his last conversation with Livia before she dies, he tries to counsel her on what to tell the Feds regarding the stolen airline tickets.  (One wrong word from her and he’s looking at time in federal prison.)  But she hems and haws and complains and makes faces—in other words, she behaves typically like herself.  His last words to her are: “For a year I didn’t speak to you, maybe I should have kept it that way.  Fuck it—do what you want.”  Many viewers took exception to the computer-generated Livia that appears here, finding the whole scene flawed and unbelievable.  The CGI does get the lighting and shadows wrong at times, and Livia’s hairstyle changes from one shot to the next.  But I think the CGI, on the whole, is done fairly well, and more importantly, is narratively justified: it eases us into the removal of Livia from the series.  If Livia had died without ever appearing on-screen in the third season, it arguably would felt more unrealistic—we would have become hyper-aware that it was Marchand’s death that precluded any more appearances by Livia.  And in truth, many viewers never even realized that Livia was artificially generated for her final scene.

The computer-generated Livia and the “rewind” scene are examples of how this episode explores notions of realism in TV and art.  Another example is the use of Cozzarelli’s Memorial Home for Livia’s funeral.  Cozzarelli’s is a real-life institution in Belleville, NJ, originally established over 100 years ago.  Tony and his sisters visit Cozzarelli (actually played by Ralph Lucarelli here) here in a funny duplication of the Godfather scene in which Don Corleone meets with undertaker Bonasera:

Cozzarelli refers to Livia as “Mom” in an attempt to be thoughtful and sympathetic,  but it is only ironic as Livia was hardly motherly to her children.  Livia wished for her funeral to be quick and uneventful: no Mass, no service, no wake.  But Tony is convinced by his sisters to have a small gathering at his house, and it is here that Janice herds everyone together before asking them to give a remembrance about Livia Soprano.

We are all guilty of using conventional, generic words after the death of an acquaintance.  It is difficult to know what to say in that situation.  The Sopranos, which has so adamantly investigated the conventions that make up our lives and our art, now looks at the conventions that surround death.  The series, which has always embraced the mundane, now depicts the banalities that we utter when confronted by the reality of death.  Livia’s acquaintances offer up generic platitudes (“At least she didn’t suffer”) not only because of their discomfort in the situation, but also because it is so difficult to find something nice to say about her.  They shuffle their feet and avoid eye contact until Carmela finally brings the ridiculous wake to an end, describing Livia as she really was and everyone knew her to be.  But did we really know Livia?  Unexpectedly, from the back of the room, Fanny raises her voice to tell everyone that Livia was her best friend.  We might remember Fanny from 1.02:

remember Fanny

It is hard to imagine that Livia could have a best friend.  Perhaps Livia was nice to Fanny out of guilt for driving into her and breaking her hip.  More likely, mousy Fanny has difficulty making friends and mistook Livia’s morbid conversations about death as an act of friendship.  In any case, Fanny’s quiet statement is the closest that Chase really ever came to humanizing Livia.  All of the show’s major characters—even the most villainous—are shown, at some point, in the fullness of their humanity.  Livia is the one exception, she was never much more than a caricature.  Perhaps Chase would eventually have fleshed Livia more humanely, but the death of Nancy Marchand put an end to that possibility.  As it is, Livia will forever be the severe, one-dimensional embodiment of a grim philosophy of nothingness that lingers throughout the series.

With Livia dead, Chase’s narrative could use a family member that will bring some more tension into Tony’s life.  Cue Janice.  Chase may not have planned to bring Janice back into SopranoWorld so soon (if at all) after her sending her back west at the end of Season 2.  But the death of Marchand may have hastened Janice’s return.  When Tony calls her at her bungalow in California, she answers the phone as “Ace Garage,” reminding us what a shady character she is.  She finagles an airline ticket to New Jersey from Tony, purportedly coming to take part in Livia’s funeral but we suspect that she may have an ulterior motive:

Jan foundation

Janice has long believed that Livia has hidden riches somewhere in her house.  She is quite willing to take a hammer to the foundation of her family home (metaphorically as well as literally) to get what she wants.  Janice will function essentially as a replacement for Livia for the remainder of the series. 

In Dr. Melfi’s office, Tony falls back on generic banalities while discussing his mother’s death, but eventually his anger and bitterness comes through.  “Miserable cunt,” he calls her, even saying that he’s happy she is dead because now there is no possibility of Livia testifying against him.  “Mothers” are a recurring topic in psychotherapy offices, and this is probably more true of Tony’s sessions than in most cases.  He facetiously tells Dr. Melfi, “So we’re probably done here, right?  She’s dead.”  But Tony has reasons to continue therapy: Chase ironically cuts from this facetious line to the scene in which Ray Curto is meeting his FBI handler.  Any pressing threat from Livia may have dissipated with her death, but Tony is definitely not in the clear: Curto is eager to wear a wire for the Feds; Janice is back; and Ralph Cifaretto, one of the great villains of the series, is introduced into SopranoWorld in this episode.  The so-called “garbage wars” are heating up and ambitious Cifaretto is adding fuel to the fire, torching trucks and smashing bodies.

The series’ greatest departure from its usual realism occurs at the gathering for Livia at Tony’s house, when Pussy appears for a moment in the mirror:

pussy's ghost
Is this actually the ghost of Pussy Bonpensiero?  Or is it a hallucination by Tony?  It is never made clear.  Apart from Paulie’s vision of the Virgin Mary in Season 6, and some strange moments that occur in dream and in coma, nothing quite as supernatural as this ever occurs again on the series.  Although this paranormal moment seems out-of-place for The Sopranos, it actually fits well into this episode which radically breached realism with the “rewind” ploy right in its opening scene.  What I find really interesting about this possible breach of reality, though, is that it occurs just as Furio is talking about a reality show; he (jokingly?) tells the guys his new moneymaking scheme: muscle the winner of Survivor into forking over a quarter of his $1 million prize.  Reality shows were just beginning to have a presence on primetime network TV when this episode aired.  Chase sometimes seemed to have a prescient sense of where the culture was headed, but even he probably could not have predicted just how ubiquitous reality shows would become.  I don’t have a problem with the shows themselves, or with their popularity.  If viewers want simple entertainment after a hard day at the office, these programs fit the bill perfectly.  I do have an issue, however, with the name of the genre; “Reality TV” is, for the most part, not very real at all.  The shows amp up the drama with absurdly exaggerated musical scoring and with teaser clips that turn out (after the commercial break, of course) to have been falsely titillating.  The setups are staged and the conflicts are contrived.  On the scale of realism, they are closer to Cartoon than to Documentary.  The Sopranos is the true reality show: very little non-diagetic scoring, scenes that depict the banal minutia of life, dialogue that is always true to its characters.  Most importantly, the series is able to evoke real emotion and real thoughts and real empathy.  (This is something that so-called Reality TV fails miserably at.) 
With its postmodern self-awareness and supernatural moment, “Proshai, Livushka” temporarily departs from the series’ customary realism, but ultimately the episode returns to a simpler, more earnest tone, evoking our genuine emotion.  In the closing scene of the hour, we see Tony shed tears while watching a tender scene in The Public Enemy, and we too might feel a sting in our eyes.  Tony is such a flesh-and-blood character that we—perhaps despite ourselves—feel sympathy for the man.

Sopranos episode titles are usually very clever things.  They often pun or wordplay or refer to something outside of SopranoWorld.  They routinely have double or triple meanings.  But this episode’s title is much more straightforward.  It comes from the simple Russian toast that Svetlana gives Livia.  I think its simplicity reinforces the ultimately genuine, earnest nature of “Proshai, Livushka.”  Despite the episode’s postmodern gamesmanship and possible foray into the supernatural, it finally becomes a simple goodbye to Livia Soprano—and Nancy Marchand.


This episode contains a small but, I think, extremely significant scene.  AJ needs to turn in a close-read of “Stopping by woods on a snowy evening” by “asshole Robert Frost” for English class the following day.  He enlists Meadow’s help because close-reads are not really his forte.  Meadow tries to guide her little brother into figuring out the poem’s meaning.  What ensues is a biting parody of much of the analysis that has been done of The Sopranos itself.  Many viewers are convinced that the series can be “solved” like a Rubik’s Cube or a crossword puzzle, with one unequivocal, clear-as-day solution.  They disregard the ambiguity that is woven into the show.  In his essay, “Christopher, Osama and AJ,” Jason Jacobs writes that the scene…

…warns us to beware of pat answers of the kind that Meadow confidently offers. We may see in AJ’s frustration the wider impatience of a consumer society that wants packages of meaning that clearly define and orientate their subjectivity; but the scene also seems to warn that even relatively sophisticated solutions to the problem of meaning (“I thought black was death,” says AJ; “White too,” replies Meadow) ultimately provide clarity where there may be none.

Dana Polan, in his fine book The S0pranos, has something similar to say about the scene:

Meadow tells him that the symbolic key is to see white as death. When he answers that he thought black symbolized death, Meadow replies that both do, demonstrating unintentionally the very silliness of a fixed catalogue of symbolic forms.

It is particularly ironic that Meadow and AJ ponder which color represents death when neither the word “black” nor “white” actually appears in the poem.  It is not even certain that the poem is actually about death; my Norton Anthology of Modern Poetry footnotes that “Frost always insisted that the repetition of the last line was not supposed to invoke death but only to imply a somnolent dreaminess in the speaker.”  It might be that Meadow and AJ are preoccupied with the idea of death only because their grandmother just passed away.  This is quite understandable.  Everyone brings their own preoccupations and experiences into their interpretations.  It is precisely because we each bring our inner and outer experiences into our interpretations that makes it so disrespectful and unjustifiable for someone to insist that someone else’s conclusions are absolutely wrong or unacceptable.  After that final scene at Holsten’s Diner, many viewers proclaimed that the cut-to-black signified Tony’s death.  That may very well be the case, but it is silliness (to borrow Polan’s word) to insist that it is so.



  • The episode begins to the sounds of Grand Funk Railroad’s “I’m Your Captain” playing as a garbage truck explodes.  We later learn that the explosion was the handiwork of Ralph Cifaretto, who is trying very hard to become a Captain within the NJ famiglia.
  • The class that Meadow and Noah are taking is “Images of Hypercapitalist Self-advancement in the Era of the Studio System.”  Almost sounds like a description of The Sopranos itself.
  • The opening placard of The Public Enemy says that the movie’s intention is “to honestly depict and environment that exists today in a certain strata of American life, rather than glorify the hoodlum or the criminal.”  This too almost sounds like a description The Sopranos.
  • Bobby mentions in passing that his father is sick.  We’ll meet Bobby’s sick father in a few episodes.
  • Irony: Livia (probably) faked a stroke in Season 1 to escape Tony’s wrath; she dies of a stroke in this episode.
  • I think it’s fitting that Svetlana delivers the simple toast to Livia, as Svetlana herself has a refreshing simplicity about her—there is very little drama or subterfuge in her.  Last season, she calmly reasoned with overly emotional Irina after the goomar‘s suicide attempt.  Now, she stands in contrast to the overly dramatic Soprano women: she seems like she would have been a worthy opponent to old Livia, and she faces off admirably with Janice over the possession of Livia’s old records.
  • A character credited only as “2 to 5 / 7 to 9” played by Marie Donato appears here at the funeral home.  The character’s name is explained only much later in the series when she appears at a funeral home again.
  • Corrado asks AJ, “How’s the surfboard I gave you?”  He complained about buying the boy a $400 surfboard all the way back in 1.03.
  • We see Tony watch the famous “grapefruit scene” from The Public Enemy here.  Chase paid homage to the scene back in episode 1.09:Grapefruit scene

56 responses to “Proshai, Livushka (3.02)

  1. I thought tony crying when watching public enemy was a touching scene. I think that watching his mother joyfully await his ( supposed) return triggered tony as to the lack of maternal love and warmth he received ( or maybe it was that he realised he would never receive any more), the image of Cagney as a golem or Frankenstein like creature echoes melfis words that tony is that subhuman monster, tortured by his mom. I thought this episode was quite tedious in parts though I suppose that was kind of the point.

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    • To me, the scene where Tony cries is all about him finally understanding his Mother. For years he has grappled with whether or not she loves him, and why he is not worthy of her love. When the mother in Public Enemy is joyfully fluffing pillows and singing, assured that her son is safe and on his way home, we see that he is really being delivered dead to her doorstep. Our hearts ache at the contrast of these scenes. She looks like an ignorant fool. To me, that is how livia desperately wanted to avoid feeling. Why should she be happy, offering love, when the reality is that her husband (and subsequently her son), are due to show up dead any day because of their profession? I think a common theme is the family’s disassociation of the reality of Tony’s profession and the horrible ending that is more than likely headed their way. They all know it, but nobody acknowledges or talks about it. Earlier Tony was confused to find that his Mother saved his childhood items, and his alone. When he sees this scene, he finally understood his mother’s necessity to try and avoid loving. In this odd way, her avoidance of growing their love shows how she is afraid of how much she could love him, only to lose him. So as not to be a fool. They are in the mob, after all. In a way, Livia is really the only one who seems to fully understand what they are involved in. Oh, and I also noticed that her “favorite song” that Janice played had some revealing lyrics. Can’t remember but it was something like, “if i loved you, I couldn’t find the words to tell you” etc.

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      • @Ann,
        That’s an interesting take on Livia. What’s the point of loving, knowing it will all
        end badly? So she chose not to be a sucker. It would be interesting to know at
        what point in her life her personality turned so toxic. From birth, or upon her initiation
        into the mob through JohnnyBoy.

        Louis CK – since he’s in the news – had a routine where a
        father brings a cute puppy home to the kids. “Look kids,
        we’re gonna cry soon!”

        Why love when the best case ending is the death of one of the participants?
        Livia couldn’t answer that. Tragic.

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      • Yes, really interesting take on Livia… she holds back her love because she doesn’t want to be vulnerable to the inevitable heartache. It doesn’t explain, however, why she’s so cold-hearted to Janice and Carm and people at green grove who are not constantly at risk of being killed. But I could see how the threat of mob violence could have hardened Livia, especially if she grew up in a la cosa nostra family…

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        • I wonder how aware Livia was of her historic namesake, the wife of Caesar Augustus ?

          If you have read or watched the magnificent Robert Graves’s I, Clavdivs, which I think is one of the lesser but still occasion influences on The Sopranos, it is revealed therein that she is the hidden power broker of the Augustine era, poisoning or arranging to be murdered various impediments who lie between her son Tiberius’s accession to the Imperial purple and a sticky end for him. Victims include (Spoiler alert) her own son Drusus, various members of Agrippa’s family who had been Augustus’s favourites and her adopted some and daughters and even, ultimately, her husband. Here, I would point out that we never learn how Johnyy Boy died…might it have been the figs ?

          Now Tiberius is known mostly for being an initially reluctant Emperor, much given to telling the Senate that ” I personally do not think we should do this but you will have it so! “. And for being a decadent man in his personal life who was either consumed by his appetites or murdered by his nephew Gaius Julius Caesar. Or Caligula if you prefer.

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          • I seem to remember Chase (or perhaps it was some critic) noting the similarities between Livia and her ancient namesake… Maybe we’ll learn in the upcoming prequel how Johnny Boy died (although I believe in Season 5 Tony says something like it was complications from emphysema)…

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  2. Also anthonys wearing an “Osiris’ hat an his close up which is another deaths reference.

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  3. I love all of the detail you put into these write ups. It’s been very enjoyable for me to read these as I am re-watching the series. One thing I disagree with; in the piece above you state that “Fanny’s quiet statement is the closest that Chase really ever came to humanizing Livia.” Even though Nancy Marchand passed away, Livia remained very much a part of the series, as many of the emotional problems that Tony and Janice suffer from stem from Livia’s poor parenting. However, I believe she was humanized a bit more much later in the series in the episode ‘In Camelot’ (5.07). The memory Tony had of his father spending the entire night with his goomar Fran when his mother had a miscarriage made me understand a bit of Livia’s angst a little easier. That her husband could disregard her so easily, and enlist his son to lie on his behalf showed me that Johnny Soprano was most likely no picnic to live with either.

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    • Good catch. Chase does humanize Livia a bit more in “In Camelot.”


    • and in this same episode, when Janice finds that she saved all the stuff from Tony’s childhood. It is made to look as she is a cunt, saving only Tony’s stuff instead of all three of them, but she still saved something! I think that’s quite nice of her, or I’m missing something

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      • Guido, I think that actually tied in to Meadow and AJ’s relationship more so than anything else. After AJ attempts suicide he and Meadow have a conversation about him being the golden child of the family regardless of what trouble he might get into, and how upset Tony and Carmella are that he tried to kill himself. There is definitely a cultural aspect to that attitude, and it is notorious in families Mediterranean decent (whether true or not in the individual families), I felt like this conversation foreshadowed that conversation, as well as highlighted how true that cultural belief is in some families, especially ones where there is an established patriarchy, like a Mafia family in the US.

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  4. I watched the episode again, and still couldn’t tell that it was computer animation. I’m guessing that most viewers were no more observant.

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    • It’s very,very blatantly obvious. As they switch between Tony & Livia’s “close ups” during their conversation, her hair is different just about every time the camera moves back to her. Her head looks too small for “her body” & the shadowing doesn’t fit @ all, She looks strange, very off.

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      • Something similar to Livia’s hair happens in a later episode where AJ and Carmella are talking. Apparently they didn’t check for continuity when they edited various takes together. Every time they switch back from Carmella to AJ his shirt sleeve is either up or down. It happens over and over… kind of distracting when you notice it, like the hair.

        I didn’t realize the scene with Livia was animated until it was pointed out to me. I guess it was kind of an experimental thing to try at the time. It doesn’t bother me but I can understand why some people would find it creepy.

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  5. I watched every episode of this show as they premiered, and have rewatched the series at least a half dozen times over the years. And I never caught on that Fanny was the one Livia ran over with her car in the driveway. lol. That’s a great sequence of stills you post, one with Fanny rolling over the hood of the car, and the next with her being at Livia’s wake, clearly disabled, presumably from that accident, then to think of her calling Livia her “best friend”. It truly reflects how the Sopranos were always able to manipulate at least one unconnected civilian into putting up with all of their crap. She was Livia’s Artie Bucco. That’s what’s so great about this show. There’s so many little nuggets that you catch each time you rewatch, or that someone else catches. Really appreciative of sites like this. This site reminds me of the newsgroup when the show was airing. A lot of great insight. Keep up the site. I’m looking forward to its completion, and reading your summaries of the last season, especially the second part of the last season, which I feel topped seasons 1 and 2.

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  6. James Cagney was also referenced in 2.05 when Paulie bribes the Police Officer before the card game and says, “Whaddya hear, whaddya say?” That was Cagney’s signature line in “Angels With Dirty Faces.”

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    • I happened to pass by PizzaLand the last time I was in NJ but I didn’t have time to go in…hope to make it back soon, though. Thanks for visiting my site, but proceed at your own risk – this site is full of spoilers for the first-time viewer.

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  7. The Savvy Svengali

    Maybe this supernatural moment is not as overt as Pussy reappearing for a split second, but what about that mysterious man who climbs down the steps and climbs back up again? When Janice starts playing the music? It happens when Tony wipes the sweat off his forehead, and you can see the figure (who looks vaguely like a young Junior) peer at the scene and head back up again. It was unexpected enough to be unsettling.

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    • I also wondered about that this viewing! An odd moment, indeed. Perhaps it was a guest who wanted to avoid having to speak about Livia? Even so, the way it is shot, with the man out of focus in the background yet still present, almost looks sinister. Or just a mistake.

      I also like the brief moment when AJ is home alone after his grandmother’s death and thinks he hears something. Those shots of the empty house, him calling out to her, etc. This show is full of little moments that you forget. Thank you so much for writing this blog! I’m rewatching the show for the first time in 10 years and love reading along. I feel like I’m in a college course for The Sopranos. I hope all if well in your life, if only so that you may finish this blog one day 🙂

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    • YES!!! He also appears again later in the episode, in the back of a hallway at some point during the funeral proceedings at the house. And another moment that supernatural is definitely shown in the series is the episode where Paulie goes to see the medium when he is freaking out about Christopher’s warnings of “3 o’clock”. I think that it’s definitely evident that some of those people he killed are talking to him from beyond. He freaks out, because there was no other way the medium could have known these things.

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  8. thedalitrauma

    The stranger on the staircase genuinely creeped me out.

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  9. Noticed something new while re-watching the Proshai Livushka ep.

    When Tony has a panic attack in this episode (around 6:35 into the ep), he staggers and falls – and the screen blacks out. Just like the end of Made In America. For a shorter interval, of course, but it happens the same way. Instant blackness – no sound.

    Proshai Livushka is an ep almost all about death, so I think that not only is this another clue about Tony’s fate, but that Chase had the ending all set in his mind as early as the beginning of S3.

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  10. I also connect the Black & White thing with what you were saying earlier, about good and bad nature of people, Don’t remember the episode.

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    • Do you think there’s any connection to Noah being both black and white?

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      • And all the movies in the episodes are black and white

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      • Yes!! I’m so glad someone said this. I learned in this class I took that racism goes so deep; people ultimately associate black with negative (death and darkness), and white with positive (life, heaven etc). I feel that this casual discussion of the poem is a way of showing that AJ was brought up in a world where black was bad, and white was good. The truth is that there is really no basis for these associations and may possibly be due to systemic racism in part. White: blankness, nothingness, empty. Easily could be death. But AJ can’t see that because of his associations.

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  11. I’m more than happy not to condone Tony’s racism. I find it odd that someone would be okay with their daughter dating a person of color, I believe they call themselves


  12. An amusing bit in this episode, which calls back to the previous one, is when Tony goes out by the pool to try to squash the beef that is building between the garbage crews. This is Chase giving police procedurals another middle finger: the bugged lamp in the basement, installed last episode, is on, but whether by accident or because Tony has good instincts, it fails to be of use. Once again, the efforts of The Good Guys amount to nothing in the face of something so simple as just walking outside. 🙂

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  13. Of course, black and white are also both symbolic of death in that all the characters in the scenes at Livia’s funeral and wake are wearing… black and white, of course. Different cultures have different customs regarding this, though. In some Asian cultures, white is worn at funerals, not black. But it does seem widespread around the world for death to be associated with one or the other, or both, of these. White and black are recognized universally as extremes – colors (if you can call them colors) of complete presence or absence. And death is of course one of the extreme conditions we all face.

    So it’s interesting to see how the Sopranos, as a show, copes with death. In a show that determinedly ignores social conventions of black-or-white morality (showing us Paulie Walnuts’s gentleness towards his goomar’s kids, for instance), shades of grey seem more appropriate. Chase often seems to be telling us there are no extremes except in our fantasies. Small wonder, then, that when the black-and-white formal wear is donned, all our characters immediately become stiff, awkward, and unlike themselves, willing to be roped into Janice’s absurd, self serving “memorial” scene. (Chris, Furio, and Adriana’s getting high together foreshadowed the miserable wake; they weren’t getting high to avoid grief over Livia, but to avoid being bored out of their skulls; possibly because Janice was invited, they were aware the event would become a train-wreck.)

    Ritualistic behavior becomes a coping mechanism. I was struck by the way in which Tony philosophically endures the repeated, identical hugs, back slappings, and fake condolences of his friends, who clearly were not thrilled to be giving them, either. When Tony says, “what are you gonna do?”, he seems to be referring not just to the inevitability of death, but to the inevitability of the empty, ritualistic behaviors that the living use to comfort themselves after death.

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    • Funny moments: When Christopher is high and talking about how it’s impossible to know for sure that everyone is unique…..the look on Carmela”s dad is priceless!

      And when the FBI agents in the van are listening and one of them says, his mother died last night and then they hear Tony happily whistling….just before he puts on the sad face for his friends

      Silvio laughing at Heshs joke and then shaking his head in sorrow when Tony approaches them

      Furio”s version of Survivor

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    • “shades of grey” is precisely the right to term to describe this series.. I think even the famous black shot that closes the series actually represents these shades of grey..


  14. Everybody has to pay taxes,
    even businessmen that rob and steal and cheat from people everyday, even they have to pay taxes.


  15. I read a few comments about the mysterious man walking halfway down the stairs, then walks back up…I actually wrote to you about a year ago and you figured it was a guest that decided he didn’t want to join the others in the great room to talk about Livia….I found the scene very creepy and I wonder what David Chase’s explanation would be, in my opinion there has to be some meaning to it. Thanks for posting this site….nice work!!!

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  16. I really wish I knew the story about the tall man coming down the stairs, then changing direction and going back upstairs….very odd


  17. i love how Silvio, Chris and Paulie are watching the skateboarding channel with AJ when tony and carm return. they’re all such overgrown children at heart ha ha ha!!

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  18. I thought the man starting to come down the stairs was just meant as a comedic moment: someone is about to rejoin the wake, realizes it’s that point where everyone has to say something nice about the deceased, decides to step backwards to avoid that politeness.
    This is a bit out there, but in the final clip from The Public Enemy, when the family learns Cagney’s character is “coming home”, not realizing he’s coming home as a corpse, and his mother starts preparing his bedroom, she tugs happily at a pillow to release it from its pillowcase, and I’ve always wondered if the director might be slyly referencing Cagney’s character’s birth with that gesture, the pillowcase the mother, the pillow, her son being born into the world at the beginning of his life, to contrast ironically with her son’s re-emergence in this scene as someone at the end of his life.

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    • That is an amazing revelation! I think you may be onto something there. Because she has a hard time getting the pillow out. Like birth. Also did you notice the sound of someone moaning during the movie scene when Cagney gets beat up in the rain? It’s not in the movie soundtrack. I think it’s Livias ghost. Tony acts strange in the scene- he hears it and can’t figure out where it’s coming from. I have never seen anyone discuss this strange scene in any blogs on line, but considering Pussy in the mirror and AJ calling his grandmothers name and the guy in the steps and the Robert Frost poem, it fits that it’s Livias ghost.

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  19. Just wanted to add that Livia’s favorite song is “IF I Loved You” because, of course, she was completely unable to love anyone.


  20. Who is the unknown old man in the stairs during the remembrance scene?


  21. This episode is packed with all kinds of stuff. “At least she didn’t suffer…What are you gonna do?” We have all heard or possibly even said these things when someone we know has passed. I found this episode interesting (and sad) because it’s almost as if they had a service for Nancy on the show. A previous commenter (Ann) said Livia was incapable of loving anyone due to her husband’s and son’s mob status; the fact that they could be killed at any time was too much for her to accept. I think there may be some truth to that. In some flashback scenes in the future Chase even makes us feel bad for Livia. I found the entire wake scene very real in way people fidgeted around, stammered at a loss for words, and just looked very uncomfortable. What you said about reality television is absolutely true. The Sopranos is very much a reality show. When I first seen the ad for this show in 1999 and began watching, I had the expectation of this being a show specifically about mobsters. It turns out it was much more that that. It’s a show about everyday life and it’s “regularness,” and the good, the bad and the ugly. These stories just happen to be told by a few people who are involved in the mafia, which makes it much more interesting. Some folks will never appreciate an episode like “House Arrest,” but I think those types of episodes are as good as an action packed episode, for different reasons of course. I always found it interesting the first time we see Ralphie he is crying. Besides Tony at the end of this episode, we don’t see anyone cry when Livia passes. Good job on the comparison between Bonosara and Cozzerelli. I love the little passages to the Godfather throughout this series. I can say that I absolutely hate the Noah character…what a dick. (I think this character was written with the intention to piss off and annoy) His background is too much for Tony to handle, and this in effect is the beginning of he and Meadow’s love/ hate relationship that extends well into season 5. (I forget when, but when Tony refers to Noah as “Jamal Ginsburg, the Hassidic homeboy,” I must have laughed for a good hour..WTF?) It’s interesting that if Nancy was still in the cast and didn’t pass on, that we may not have had the Janice character in the show. That would have changed things for sure.

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  22. I was struck by Hugh’s little tirade about Livia at the wake. Not that he was saying anything untrue about her, but she was Tony, Janice, and Barb’s mother, after all. There might have been a more appropriate time to vent. I guess you mix enough liquor and hard feelings and there’s no telling what will come out.

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  23. The guest at the to of the stairs would appear to be Uncle Junior, but unsure – the glasses are too big!

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  24. Just watched the whole series through the second time, and absolutely loving reading these with the show still firmly in my short-term memory (that won’t last long). It’s deepened my appreciation of the show to levels I didn’t think we’re possible.

    The first time I watched the show was when they first aired and I was still a teenager. Im not sure if I picked up on digi-Livia, but I have a feeling I looked out for it because I had read in a TV digest magazine before the fact that the show had decided to do something pretty experimental (I live in the UK so we got the show some time after it’s US premier I believe) My second watch was at over age 30, and the weirdness was blatantly obvious to me. It was also weird to see Livia repeat phrases she’d only just uttered not long ago in my marathon-watching sessions, which I appreciate would have been a years-long gap when originally aired.

    I actually find it a weird decision that they did this (much like that episode with the random strange cheesy transition edits – cant remember the name of the ep – which made me startled and then laugh out loud on second viewing), and furthermore made me question whether it was the right call. Simply having her disappear from the show actually potentially reinforces two of the main themes of the show which you always highlight Ron – verisimilitude (thanks for teaching me that great word) and the unsure nature of the ending of the show. We could die at any minute. You’re there…and then there’s black.

    With this in mind it surprises me that Chase and the rest of the team felt the need to have Nancy’s character back on the show for what was a bit of a novelty – even if it was a nice send off for the actress.

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    • Chase is all about the verisimilitude, and perhaps it would have been more realistic for Livia to never appear again. But there is also something very real about giving us a chance to send Marchand off nicely, as you say — Chase may have felt that the reality of her death took precedence over any goal of verisimilitude in fictional SopranoWorld…

      (P.S. It was S.5’s Cold Cuts that had the weird edit you’re probably thinking of…)

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  25. I really enjoy these posts, Ron. You reach a little too far sometimes (haha), but overall very enjoyable! Just a note…that is absolutely blood, not tomato juice. Watch the scene again. Looking forward to the rest of Season 6!

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  26. Here’s a quick question: in the scene where Tony and Carmela pull up to Livia’s house as the ambulance is pulling away, there is a shot of the neighbors standing outside in the street, presumably observing the commotion. The scene pans from a view of the neighbors in the street, back to Tony, and then back to the neighbors (through Tony’s perspective). This final shot of the neighbors, holding their dog on a leash and silhouetted by streetlight, seems to hang for a bit of time, almost implying some significance to the shot. Curious to hear any thoughts on what this may have been intended to imply….

    BWT: Ron- this site offers such a wealth of insight. Thanks so much for your efforts.

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